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you have chuck hagel. you have brennan. i mean, i think that is also part of the pitch that they're going to make on the hill to -- for these nominations is that this is going -- think about this as the team not just the individual. >> one thing, though, i would add -- >> it's a lot of white men, but that's okay. >> what i would add is the reason they were -- part of why they were not willing to have the fight over rice, which is they areotology have this fight, the issue with susan rice is benghazi. that ties back to the president and hillary clinton. there is -- it's not a perfect scenario. whereas here it's you're opposing hagel and that has nothing do with me. >> susan rice went to the hill, and it did not go well. there was some sort of a dry run, and it did not go well, and there's some sense that she took herself out of the nomination as well. we can't with stand this. how much do you think hagel's comments about richard hormel, i believe, who was going to serve as the u.s. ambassador to lucks emberg and questioned h
you have chuck hagel. you have brennan. i mean, i think that is also part of the pitch that they're going to make on the hill to -- for these nominations is that this is going -- think about this as the team not just the individual. >> one thing, though, i would add -- >> it's a lot of white men, but that's okay. >> what i would add is the reason they were -- part of why they were not willing to have the fight over rice, which is they areotology have this fight, the issue with...
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for chuck hagel. >> let's just point out that we were -- when you see a picture of the east room of the white house, the press corps awaiting, right now hamid karzai and president obama are having lunch, and when they come out, we were told it would be at 1:15. if they come out, they will each make statements and answer questions. clearly the president is also going to be asked about domestic issues. i would suspect guns given that that is one of the prime issues that the white house is dealing with right now as joe biden continues meetings on the gun issue today. chris alissa, when we talk about president obama and what he is facing in changing his team, when david gregory asked on "meet the press" about hagel, and i think we all expected that the number three democrat in the senate would say, okay, great choice. he said, well, not so much. we'll have to wait to see what happens at the hearing, or something like that. chuck todd and i were sitting at the table on "meet the press" and said whoa. >> we
for chuck hagel. >> let's just point out that we were -- when you see a picture of the east room of the white house, the press corps awaiting, right now hamid karzai and president obama are having lunch, and when they come out, we were told it would be at 1:15. if they come out, they will each make statements and answer questions. clearly the president is also going to be asked about domestic issues. i would suspect guns given that that is one of the prime issues that the white house is...
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>> martin, look, president obama would not have nominated chuck hagel if chuck hagel was not in line with him on this particular issue and on the president's policy descriptions for the pentagon. so i am not worried about chuck hagel, about what he said 15 years ago, especially since he has since apologized and has made affirmative statements. >> yes, he has, indeed. now, john, john brennan has 25 years of service at the cia. he's expected to be questioned rigorously on the issue of torture or enhanced interrogation techniques as they're known by some. does this present mr. brennan with some real challenge given his oversight of enhanced interrogation techniques under the previous administration? >> well, i mean, since he was there in the previous administration, if the senate wants to ask him those questions, then, yes, they will provide some discomfort for him, but remember when president obama came into office, it was he who said we are no longer doing this. this is not who we are as a country, and so if the senate wants to litigate past battles that even the president of the unit
>> martin, look, president obama would not have nominated chuck hagel if chuck hagel was not in line with him on this particular issue and on the president's policy descriptions for the pentagon. so i am not worried about chuck hagel, about what he said 15 years ago, especially since he has since apologized and has made affirmative statements. >> yes, he has, indeed. now, john, john brennan has 25 years of service at the cia. he's expected to be questioned rigorously on the issue of...
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lends credibility to the nomination of chuck hagel. but there are key senators like senator chuck schumer that will make a big difference. with regard to senator schumer, i cannot speak more highly than senator schumer. i was seeking the aim accusations when i was running as senator of pennsylvania in 2010. senator schumer called me and came in to philadelphia and met with the jewish literee leaders having understood having been in the military, we would have laid down our lives for the defense of israel. i went to the middle east with senator hagel and heard him talk about having the strength of having america defend israel. my take on end of the day, senator schumer critically will probably do what he did once for america, defend that that is best for national security interests. i think he's going to be key and you'll see in these hearings that chuck hagel, former enlisted man for vietnam will get this nomination because of what he will do for america's security. >> based on what admiral sestak just said, politico is reporting sayin
lends credibility to the nomination of chuck hagel. but there are key senators like senator chuck schumer that will make a big difference. with regard to senator schumer, i cannot speak more highly than senator schumer. i was seeking the aim accusations when i was running as senator of pennsylvania in 2010. senator schumer called me and came in to philadelphia and met with the jewish literee leaders having understood having been in the military, we would have laid down our lives for the defense...
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chuck hagel's was one of those votes. and when it came to the bigger issue of iran sanctions on the senate floor, chuck hagel, again, one of only two senators of the entire u.s. senate to vote against iran sanctions, with so many dictators-- >> i'm sorry, i didn't mean to interrupt you, but if i may, let's talk about the point of israel, what has been your concern with senator hagel on that issue. >> well, there was a letter circulated in the united states senate overwhelmingly, a high number of senators signed the letter, expressing something as simple as solidarity with the democratic jewish state of israel, our salad ally. chuck hagel refused to sign a letter expressing solidarity with israel and what we have seen is that he favors engagement with syria's al-assad, with il when he was alive and also, with all of the dictators who seek to harm u.s. interests and our allies. he wants further engagement with them. he doesn't think that we should penalize those dictators and that harms u.s. national security interests. >>
chuck hagel's was one of those votes. and when it came to the bigger issue of iran sanctions on the senate floor, chuck hagel, again, one of only two senators of the entire u.s. senate to vote against iran sanctions, with so many dictators-- >> i'm sorry, i didn't mean to interrupt you, but if i may, let's talk about the point of israel, what has been your concern with senator hagel on that issue. >> well, there was a letter circulated in the united states senate overwhelmingly, a...
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is it your opinion, politically that if chuck schumer doesn't come onboard that chuck hagel couldn't suffer and not go through and get confirmed? >> i think senator schumer will be critical. >> i think that he will be inclined to support the president's choice. i think most of us would be. at the same time, he is going to have to be satisfied that senator hagel will advance these policies that will seek to prevent iran from ever obtaining a nuclear bomb, and i think if the senator, that is if senator schumer were not persuaded during the confirmation that he would be willing to break with the president and it's that important. the iran issue is simply that important, but again, if i were a betting man, i would say that he'll be confirmed, that he'll satisfy the questions that have been raised, but that fate is very much in senator hagel's hands as well as in senator schumer's. >> the hearings will tell the tale. >> thanks for your time. i appreciate it. >> thank you. >>> bill clinton is in haiti today. we'll take you live to the island nation still devastated from the aftermath of th
is it your opinion, politically that if chuck schumer doesn't come onboard that chuck hagel couldn't suffer and not go through and get confirmed? >> i think senator schumer will be critical. >> i think that he will be inclined to support the president's choice. i think most of us would be. at the same time, he is going to have to be satisfied that senator hagel will advance these policies that will seek to prevent iran from ever obtaining a nuclear bomb, and i think if the senator,...
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i am glad that obama picked chuck hagel. it is about time we got a real american hero that does not have to be vetted by cowards like lindsay gramm and the apac crowd. why doesn't he moved to israel and joined the knesset because many of us don't feel like he feels about israel and their politicians should not have to be vetted by a coward like lieberman or lindsey graham. host: why are you calling them a coward? caller: it is all about israel to these clowns and i am sick of it. we give these people $3 billion per year and all they do is give us guff. that is why. host: we are taking your phone calls this morning. about foreign policy challenges in 2013. this is the opening section of "usa today" - >there are other stories in noting that the former senator, chuck hagel, when he was in office, approved about $38 billion in aid for the jewish state along with multiple trips to beat -- to meet with leaders there. that is a little bit of background on chuck hagel. david, indianapolis, democratic caller -- caller: good morning.
i am glad that obama picked chuck hagel. it is about time we got a real american hero that does not have to be vetted by cowards like lindsay gramm and the apac crowd. why doesn't he moved to israel and joined the knesset because many of us don't feel like he feels about israel and their politicians should not have to be vetted by a coward like lieberman or lindsey graham. host: why are you calling them a coward? caller: it is all about israel to these clowns and i am sick of it. we give these...
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and there is none of that with chuck hagel. i mean there is no scandal. there is no background that's going to come out and bite. so i think will you-- he's not the first enlisted man. bill perry who is bill clinton's first secretary of defense was briefly but then became an officer. he is a come bat veteran. i think it is interesting, david mentioned john kerry. john kerry, jim webb, dan ino way died, jim webb left voluntarily, john kerry will leave. they mr. only four members of the united states senate, john mccain being the fouferment i mean so what you have in kerry and hagel are two men who have seen war up front and up close, and who have become far more reluctant to deploy americans. they don't talk in the ancient language of swagger how we are going to go in and kick some tail, or anything of the sort like so many of the noncombatants do. so i think that hagel, i think brennan will bring up a discussion. we'll find out how lib ralts, in fact, they really do care about the use of drones in this administration. the seems to have given a pass to pre
and there is none of that with chuck hagel. i mean there is no scandal. there is no background that's going to come out and bite. so i think will you-- he's not the first enlisted man. bill perry who is bill clinton's first secretary of defense was briefly but then became an officer. he is a come bat veteran. i think it is interesting, david mentioned john kerry. john kerry, jim webb, dan ino way died, jim webb left voluntarily, john kerry will leave. they mr. only four members of the united...
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much is written and said about the selection or nomination of chuck hagel and john kerry as part of the president's circle in determining what to do with afghanistan or with the troop levels in afghanistan moving ahead. >> that's right, tamron. and i think that the pressure on the president internally within his own administration to keep those numbers very low will be fairly considerable. last year, we were led to believe that there would be remaining force post-2014 of 10,000 to 15,000. i think today you should probably look at a 3,000 to 6,000 force. but what i thought was interesting about the press conference, tamron, was that while the president described the role of those forces in very narrow terms, continuing the training and doing a counter terrorism operation when needed against al qaeda remnants, what he didn't say was what's the main purpose of having those forces remain in afghanistan? i think it's two fold. one of them is to keep the taliban which will certainly come back in the rural areas and has ready from taking over kabul and so it's sort of a trip wire for that, the
much is written and said about the selection or nomination of chuck hagel and john kerry as part of the president's circle in determining what to do with afghanistan or with the troop levels in afghanistan moving ahead. >> that's right, tamron. and i think that the pressure on the president internally within his own administration to keep those numbers very low will be fairly considerable. last year, we were led to believe that there would be remaining force post-2014 of 10,000 to 15,000....
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. >> several senate republicans have made it clear that jack lew will be a fight just as chuck hagel will be a fight, just as susan rice was a fight. the second problem for president obama is that so far his chosen bantd doesn't include any sisters, nor does it include any racial diversity. even members of his own party are expressing dismay. new york democrat charlie rangel called the lack of women embarrassing as hell and yesterday chairwoman of the congressional black caucus, marcia fudge wrote a letter urging the president to nominate two members of the cbc. bill, you are a former diverse member of the president's -- >> still diverse. >> yes. you remain diverse, though not sequestered at 1600 pennsylvania avenue, for which we are thankful. i wonder what you make about this contention that he is being too insular, a, in terms of the possibility of group think, people that have been with him forever, and then, b, how much is the diversity problem for him? >> well, i'll start with b. you know, i think that what we're seeing here is more of an optics problem than it is a real problem
. >> several senate republicans have made it clear that jack lew will be a fight just as chuck hagel will be a fight, just as susan rice was a fight. the second problem for president obama is that so far his chosen bantd doesn't include any sisters, nor does it include any racial diversity. even members of his own party are expressing dismay. new york democrat charlie rangel called the lack of women embarrassing as hell and yesterday chairwoman of the congressional black caucus, marcia...
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it seems that chuck schumer is the key to chuck hagel's failure or success. tell us why. >> that's right. and first we have to do happy friday. >> happy friday. >> happy friday. >> boy, do we need that. >> and this is a surprise. senator schumer has been telling his allies in new york, especially jewish groups, that would be, quote, very hard, very hard for him to support chuck hagel for pentagon head because of his positions on israel the other day. the real canary in the coal mine on the trouble that the hagel nomination has faced was on "meet the press" several weaks ago when senator schumer surprisingly wouldn't commit to supporting him. and usually when the president has a nominee, favorite nominee, a name out there, the number three democrat in the senate, chuck schumer, is going to say sure, i'll support him. he said he's going to listen for the hearings. and that's where he still is. just wednesday at a private breakfast at park avenue winter, one of those fancy restaurants up there, senator schumer was saying that he was very uneasy about senator hag
it seems that chuck schumer is the key to chuck hagel's failure or success. tell us why. >> that's right. and first we have to do happy friday. >> happy friday. >> happy friday. >> boy, do we need that. >> and this is a surprise. senator schumer has been telling his allies in new york, especially jewish groups, that would be, quote, very hard, very hard for him to support chuck hagel for pentagon head because of his positions on israel the other day. the real...
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president obama made two major cabinet announcements in chuck hagel and just yesterday jack lew and while not a cabinet position, the president nominated john brennan to head the cia. all three posts need to be confirmed when the senate gets back to work. and speaking of approval, the president will kick off his second term seven points more popular than the first-term average flying in the face of history, though it's still early. five of the seven u.s. presidents re-elected since world war ii have been less popular in the second terms. so can the president use early momentum to push the policy agenda? let's spin. guys, i have been saying for a while now i think that his second term he's going the see a lot more pushback from the friends on the left than his foes on the right. for one, he's been re-elected. i think the gop has generally resigned themselves to the fact that they're going to be four more years to obama and they have a little less incentive to hang him for every misstep he has but democrats are incentives to watch him more carefully. one, payment, you know, a number of grou
president obama made two major cabinet announcements in chuck hagel and just yesterday jack lew and while not a cabinet position, the president nominated john brennan to head the cia. all three posts need to be confirmed when the senate gets back to work. and speaking of approval, the president will kick off his second term seven points more popular than the first-term average flying in the face of history, though it's still early. five of the seven u.s. presidents re-elected since world war ii...
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won't chuck hagel be asked, are you in favor ever this zero troop option that is on the table? >> there is no question he'll be asked about it directly, this is one of the things that concerns you know, hawks in washington and elsewhere, is over the past several years it's been seen as leon panetta, and before him bob gates, you know, if not being hawkish at least in the intraadministration debates taking a position that was to the right of the president. i think with chuck hagel there is a very real propect that he will be basically in agreement with the president or maybe coming to these arguments from a more dovish prospective. i think that concerns republicans in the senate but also maybe some moderate centrist democrats in the senate. martha: very interesting. thank you so much. bill: if the government bailed you out why would you taourp you turn around and sue it? martha: we will have more on that. also joe biden sitting down with the video-game makers in a push to stop gun violence. at what point do parents need to take responsibility for what their kids are doing at hom
won't chuck hagel be asked, are you in favor ever this zero troop option that is on the table? >> there is no question he'll be asked about it directly, this is one of the things that concerns you know, hawks in washington and elsewhere, is over the past several years it's been seen as leon panetta, and before him bob gates, you know, if not being hawkish at least in the intraadministration debates taking a position that was to the right of the president. i think with chuck hagel there is...
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in a week where the question has been questioned for nominating chuck hagel for defense secretary, a man who was against the surge in afghanistan is four more defense cuts and written about avoiding wars, would it help the president to take a stronger stance on this? >> no. at the end of the day, you go through your evaluations. i talked to a three-star general that served in afghanistan that made it perfectly clear that these are delicate situations. you are still dealing with a country where we are trying to get the security forces up to bar. it could cost us about $30 billion a year. the president has to make an economic decision as well. if panetta is on his way out is saying, i want it done in weeks and the president is simply saying, i am going to take a few more months, i say, take your time, because you are dealing with the lives of american troops. >> that's a fair point. the clock is ticking. the united states says it is going to withdraw in 2014. it is not just delay on troop numbers that had us asking questions today. today, the question gave a reason for the delay. he sa
in a week where the question has been questioned for nominating chuck hagel for defense secretary, a man who was against the surge in afghanistan is four more defense cuts and written about avoiding wars, would it help the president to take a stronger stance on this? >> no. at the end of the day, you go through your evaluations. i talked to a three-star general that served in afghanistan that made it perfectly clear that these are delicate situations. you are still dealing with a country...
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i served when chuck hagel and his brother were there. what is it you can see that causes such a rift with the republicans went a democrat chooses a republican such as mr. chuck hagel. he has so much significant qualifications and knowledge of congress. that is the key thing. guest: i guess we'll see what the objections to a hagel are. i think hagel is a sound choice. i think the president has every right to nominate chuck hagel for this position. some statements he has made in the past need to be aired. my guess is that he will be confirmed by a large margin in the senate. the secretary of defense does not make foreign policy. the secretary of defense plays the primary role of bringing our defense department to bear to the service of the president. most people believe his qualifications are sound. he was a decorated hero, enlisted man in the vietnam war. there never has been an enlisted man like him as secretary of defense. the issues he is going to confront our budgetary issues and how well we can fund the pentagon and how we can cut ba
i served when chuck hagel and his brother were there. what is it you can see that causes such a rift with the republicans went a democrat chooses a republican such as mr. chuck hagel. he has so much significant qualifications and knowledge of congress. that is the key thing. guest: i guess we'll see what the objections to a hagel are. i think hagel is a sound choice. i think the president has every right to nominate chuck hagel for this position. some statements he has made in the past need to...
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and in a week where the president has been questioned for nominated chuck hagel for defense secretary, would it have helped the president to take a stronger stance on this issue today? either telling the country the troop count or being open of the fact of, hey, look, we're not on the schedule to announce this and telling the public why. >> no, at the end of the day, you go through your evaluations. i talked to a three-star general who served in afghanistan who made it perfectly clear that these are delicate situations, you're still dealing with a country where we're trying to get the security forces up to par. you also don't just want to just make some kind of announcement without thinking it through. i talked to a senior administration official who said to lead 10,000 troops in afghanistan could cost us $30 billion a year. the president also has to make an economic decision, as well. so, look, if panetta is saying i want it done in weeks and the president is simply saying i'm going to take a few more months, i say take your time because you're dealing with the lives of american troo
and in a week where the president has been questioned for nominated chuck hagel for defense secretary, would it have helped the president to take a stronger stance on this issue today? either telling the country the troop count or being open of the fact of, hey, look, we're not on the schedule to announce this and telling the public why. >> no, at the end of the day, you go through your evaluations. i talked to a three-star general who served in afghanistan who made it perfectly clear...
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the debate over former senate chuck hagel's confirmation is on. then the golden globes air tomorrow. we'll take an inside look at what happens when you -- well, this is totally different, when you drop a camera from space. you could say it's out of this world. the big whoops coming up. >>> we're continuing the discussion we started before the break. president obama's choice to be the next secretary of defense is finding himself, well, on the defensive. chuck hagel is the former republican senator and vietnam war veteran. he has been tapped to replace leon panetta, about you a remark he made in 1976 about an openly gay ambassador has drawn fire of gay and lesbian groups. we're joined by heather kronk who is the managing director of get equal for lesbian and gay americans. and i'll point out both of you are gay. you disagree though on mr. hagel. so thank you both for joining us. let's listen first to what the president had to say about chuck hagel and then we'll talk on the other side. >> chuck haig's leadership of our military would be historic. he
the debate over former senate chuck hagel's confirmation is on. then the golden globes air tomorrow. we'll take an inside look at what happens when you -- well, this is totally different, when you drop a camera from space. you could say it's out of this world. the big whoops coming up. >>> we're continuing the discussion we started before the break. president obama's choice to be the next secretary of defense is finding himself, well, on the defensive. chuck hagel is the former...
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where does chuck hagel really stand? what is myth and what is fact? our next guest, aaron david miller, former advisor to six secretaries of state. great to see you. this whole thing is your fault. >> no good deed goes unpunished. >> gregg: explain to us it was your interview. in which he said the jewish lobby intimidates a lot of people. that remark led people to accuse him of being hostile to israel but in your column this week and the washington post you argue that is myth. how so? >> chuck hagel isn't a gushing zionist but he is not an enemy of the state of israel. he believes in a relationship with the jewish state and the voting record in terms of $40 billion over the years is testament to that fact. he just doesn't believe in having an exclusive relationship with the israelis and every policy they pursue is scrutinized or criticism. he is is a republican realist in the mode of george h.w. bush, james baker. more important than that, the reality is, i think this fight really isn't about hagel at all. it's about the president because the presiden
where does chuck hagel really stand? what is myth and what is fact? our next guest, aaron david miller, former advisor to six secretaries of state. great to see you. this whole thing is your fault. >> no good deed goes unpunished. >> gregg: explain to us it was your interview. in which he said the jewish lobby intimidates a lot of people. that remark led people to accuse him of being hostile to israel but in your column this week and the washington post you argue that is myth. how...
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the choice is chuck hagel of nebraska. the announcement is coming today and the nomination process could get ugly. because republican leaders are questioning haggle's support of israel and unwillingness to get behind sanctions of iran. lindsay graham sounding the battle cry on cnn "state of the union." >> this is an in your face nomination by the president to all of us supportive of israel. i don't know what his management experience is regarding the pentagon. little, if any, so i think it's an incredibly controversial choice, and looks like the second term of barack obama is going to be an in-your-face term. >> jill dougherty live from washington. opposition from the right and left on a number of different issues. what's the top problems that people have with chuck hagel? >> you take the republicans who don't consider him a republican anymore, they would point to israel. say he's not a friend of israel. one of the reasons they say that, they point to iran, and haggle has questioned the efficacy of unilateral, u.s. sanctio
the choice is chuck hagel of nebraska. the announcement is coming today and the nomination process could get ugly. because republican leaders are questioning haggle's support of israel and unwillingness to get behind sanctions of iran. lindsay graham sounding the battle cry on cnn "state of the union." >> this is an in your face nomination by the president to all of us supportive of israel. i don't know what his management experience is regarding the pentagon. little, if any, so...
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. >> former senator chuck hagel may need those war survivor skills. >> his leadership of our military would be historic. >> this is an in-your-face nomination by the president. >>> two nightmarish incidents are now under investigation. >> fuel leak is always a serious matter. >> what a beautiful woman. >> i think the media has been unfair to him. >> beautiful woman, few ugly plane problems and key cabinet picks like chuck hagel. >> i came to admire his courage, his judgment, his willingness to speak his mind, even if it wasn't popular. >> turns out he's not too popular with some. >> chuck hagel, if confirmed to be secretary of defense, would be the most antagonistic secretary of defense toward the state of israel in our nation's history. >> profoundly wrong on some of the biggest national security threats confronting the united states today. >>> mechanical problems keep rolling in for boeing's 787 dreamliner. >> more like a nightmare. three of boeing's brand new planes suffered a slue of issues. >> fire and leaking fuel. >> error message related to the plane's braking system. >> all t
. >> former senator chuck hagel may need those war survivor skills. >> his leadership of our military would be historic. >> this is an in-your-face nomination by the president. >>> two nightmarish incidents are now under investigation. >> fuel leak is always a serious matter. >> what a beautiful woman. >> i think the media has been unfair to him. >> beautiful woman, few ugly plane problems and key cabinet picks like chuck hagel. >> i came...
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this is a real window into why the president made this tough choice of chuck hagel. and that is we talked to people around the white house who said that the president wants fights with congress. and there's both a short-term strategy here and a long-term strategy. in the short term, the president wants to take advantage of the fact that he's the only person in these negotiations who's not running for re-election. so he can afford to be tough. he can afford to stand up for what he said. second, simple contempt by the president. these republicans who lost to him so badly in 2012, in his view, just won't take yes for an answer. so there's a little bit of exasperation by the president. but pull back the camera, and you see the bigger strategy, which is looking ahead to the midterm elections in 2014. by picking tough fights with the hill, the president uses his office to draw contrast with the republicans might make it easier for house democrats to get a majority back in 2014. it would be a long shot, but that would be bookends for the majority the president started his p
this is a real window into why the president made this tough choice of chuck hagel. and that is we talked to people around the white house who said that the president wants fights with congress. and there's both a short-term strategy here and a long-term strategy. in the short term, the president wants to take advantage of the fact that he's the only person in these negotiations who's not running for re-election. so he can afford to be tough. he can afford to stand up for what he said. second,...
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both sides have been critical of chuck hagel for various reasons. in your latest piece, dana, you argue the president should be able to pick whomever he likes. tell me about that. >> you hear a lot of the republicans now saying opposing nominees because he's close to the president or because he shares the president's policies. now, you can argue that maybe the president should not stack his cabinet with yes men. the president himself said he wanted a team of rivals lincoln style cabinet. he's going against that. but the truth is, the president won re-election. he's entitled to name whatever adviser he wants to his cabinet unless that adviser is completely unfit to serve. you can't say i don't like the guy's policies. well then beat the president. beat the democrats in an election and then the republicans get to pick who runs what cabinet agency. >> christina, do you have any sense the white house feels the need to defend the president's picks? >> well, by nominating chuck hagel to be secretary of defense the white house is very much signalling it's
both sides have been critical of chuck hagel for various reasons. in your latest piece, dana, you argue the president should be able to pick whomever he likes. tell me about that. >> you hear a lot of the republicans now saying opposing nominees because he's close to the president or because he shares the president's policies. now, you can argue that maybe the president should not stack his cabinet with yes men. the president himself said he wanted a team of rivals lincoln style cabinet....
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jon: i made that observation the other day because chuck hagel is not popular among some, even in the republican party. so the president gets to look bipartisan by nominating a republican, but it's a republican who doesn't enjoy widespread support or at least unanimous support from members of his own party. >> well, you know, you touched on something among the political pros in washington is much, a point of much conversation. you know he had challenged mitch mcconnell for leadership post while he was in the senate. so mcconnell doesn't have a whole lot of love for him. don't forget, he endorsed john kerry in that nebraska senate race that recently went to a republican. so people don't, of course he was opposed to the war. he opposed the surge in iraq. so the bush administration folks, again they don't have a whole lot of love but mitch mcconnell has said that chuck hagel will get a fair hearing. i think it is likely he will be confirmed, but again for the president's perspective, he has nominated a republican and he has put republicans in the position of having to reject one of their
jon: i made that observation the other day because chuck hagel is not popular among some, even in the republican party. so the president gets to look bipartisan by nominating a republican, but it's a republican who doesn't enjoy widespread support or at least unanimous support from members of his own party. >> well, you know, you touched on something among the political pros in washington is much, a point of much conversation. you know he had challenged mitch mcconnell for leadership post...
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. >> shepard: let's speak about chuck hagel. what is really at the bottom of this? >> well, you know, think you summed it up well in the earlier spot. it is not just that people have specific disagreements with him on iran or on israel. but i think many republicans see him as a man who sort of strayed from the flock. sometimes you take the criticism most strongly from your own people if they feel like you haven't been true to the cause so to speak. senator hagel his defenders and his fans and i think i'm one of them would say he displayed admirable thought. kit there has been some issues i will take the iraq surge for example where he was against it at the beginning. a lot of us were dubious about it at the beginning but one isn't quite sure if he revised his views once it clearly succeeded in its own military logic. itle be interesting to see what he will say in the confirmation hearings. that will reflect to which he is empirical and open minded and open to new evidence. those are some of the questions he will have to confront. >> shepard: some are making the argu
. >> shepard: let's speak about chuck hagel. what is really at the bottom of this? >> well, you know, think you summed it up well in the earlier spot. it is not just that people have specific disagreements with him on iran or on israel. but i think many republicans see him as a man who sort of strayed from the flock. sometimes you take the criticism most strongly from your own people if they feel like you haven't been true to the cause so to speak. senator hagel his defenders and...
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hagel. >> chuck hagel apologized. >> megyn: but he got passed for defense secretary and he says some guy was aggressively gay. >> my point is if somebody said i made a mistake in the early '90s, and i don't anymore. he got a raw deal. i don't think he went to the lengths of saying i don't subscribe to this. and substitute the word black for interracial marriage and all of a sudden, they wouldn't. and if you're in support of gay marriage you have to say this this is discriminatory. >> megyn: would the gay rights group say that no christian pastor, no muslim imam, i'm not sure where the jews stand on gay marriage. >> different-- >> and people of faith for a long time had an anti-gay stance. are we going to get to the point if you're a person of faith you cannot speak at a presidential inauguration. >> we're almost there, megyn. you have the world's great religions have, what according political christians, unacceptable positions or policy of positions, kind of getting to the point where christianity is an easy target. so the christian pastor goes. but when you talk about maybe a jewish
hagel. >> chuck hagel apologized. >> megyn: but he got passed for defense secretary and he says some guy was aggressively gay. >> my point is if somebody said i made a mistake in the early '90s, and i don't anymore. he got a raw deal. i don't think he went to the lengths of saying i don't subscribe to this. and substitute the word black for interracial marriage and all of a sudden, they wouldn't. and if you're in support of gay marriage you have to say this this is...
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in fact it was in 2008 when then senators joe biden, chuck hagel and john kerry, chuck hagel his pick to be defense secretary, john kerry his pick to head up the state department, went to afghanistan and actually met with hamid karzai, had a very contentious meeting with him as they confronted the issue of corruption in afghanistan. so certainly this is a relationships that that has had tension over the years and that is something as well that these new picks for the national security team and foreign relations team are going to be confronting and they certainly have experience with, wolf. >> all right. if we're in that two minute warning, i think they will be announcing the introduction of the proptwo presidents walking will. an opening statement by president obama and then karzai and then questions. very limited number of questions. i think two questions maybe from each side from the afghan side frrks t, from the u.s. side and then they will answer questions. they've been meeting in the oval office now. this follows president karzai's meetings yesterday with the secretary of state h
in fact it was in 2008 when then senators joe biden, chuck hagel and john kerry, chuck hagel his pick to be defense secretary, john kerry his pick to head up the state department, went to afghanistan and actually met with hamid karzai, had a very contentious meeting with him as they confronted the issue of corruption in afghanistan. so certainly this is a relationships that that has had tension over the years and that is something as well that these new picks for the national security team and...
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what has chuck hagel indicated he would cut going forward? >> reporter: first of all, heather it may not be up to hagel himself as defense secretary if he gets through the confirmation hearing. it will be up to congress. you still have sequestration, which is the $500 billion of cuts over 10 years that are looming. the deadline for that has been moved to march 1st but what hagel has said in the past and i will quote here, in september 2011, hagel told "the financial times" that the defense department was bloated, adding the pentagon needs to be pared down. i don't think our military really looked at themselves strategically, critically in a long time. clearly he wants to cut but so did secretary fates and did secretary panetta when they were both here at the defense department. right now the u.s. is spending about $85 billion a year on the war in afghanistan. 66,000 troops are there right now. the talk now is going down to 3 to 6,000 troops. what would that mean in terms of cost savings? it would take the war cost there in afghanistan down to
what has chuck hagel indicated he would cut going forward? >> reporter: first of all, heather it may not be up to hagel himself as defense secretary if he gets through the confirmation hearing. it will be up to congress. you still have sequestration, which is the $500 billion of cuts over 10 years that are looming. the deadline for that has been moved to march 1st but what hagel has said in the past and i will quote here, in september 2011, hagel told "the financial times" that...
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>> the difference is, jamal, that chuck hagel apologized for the views he expressed nearly 20 years ago and the statement today from reverend giglio, he said neither i or our team feels it best serves the current message and goals that we're seeking to accomplish to be a fight and issue and withdraw my acceptance of the invitation. >> if the pastor had apologized, do you think that would have made it go away? i suspect he still would have been chased from being there for the inaugural. >> i'm not -- >> having said that. >> i'm not sure that's true, ari. i think one of the ways that we're going to move past this issue is for people who have views that maybe now they reflect a different view. coming out and saying i regret those views or i've changed my position or we need to have a broader understanding, something that moves us past their past views, people in the administration will focus on these issues of human trafficking and slavery, they were aligning with these groups to come together on other issues important to the administration. lastly, i will say that the administration h
>> the difference is, jamal, that chuck hagel apologized for the views he expressed nearly 20 years ago and the statement today from reverend giglio, he said neither i or our team feels it best serves the current message and goals that we're seeking to accomplish to be a fight and issue and withdraw my acceptance of the invitation. >> if the pastor had apologized, do you think that would have made it go away? i suspect he still would have been chased from being there for the...
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john kerry for secretary of state comes chuck hagel for defense secretary, and of course john brennan as the cia director earlier this week. coming up, we will hear from the current defense secretary of leon panetta and the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff martin dempsey. we will have live coverage here on c-span. coming up, we will have a look at the cost of college education and student loans and whether college that could be the next bauble that might affect the economy. we will be joined by marian wang and josh michel. that is live at 8:00 p.m. eastern here on c-span. the national debt may be the single biggest threat to the national future according to thomas donahue. this is 35 minutes. >> good morning. happy new year, everybody. i am the president of the u.s. chamber of commerce, and we are pleased that you could join us for the annual state of american business address. before we welcome him to the stage, i would like to say a brief word about my friend and our leader tom donohue. looking back of the past year, the chamber has had victories and a few disappointments durin
john kerry for secretary of state comes chuck hagel for defense secretary, and of course john brennan as the cia director earlier this week. coming up, we will hear from the current defense secretary of leon panetta and the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff martin dempsey. we will have live coverage here on c-span. coming up, we will have a look at the cost of college education and student loans and whether college that could be the next bauble that might affect the economy. we will be...
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he likes chuck hagel and he picked him. that may be vast oversimplification. margaret carlson made the same point. mary katherine, it would bother me more if i president hadn't done a thorough job thinking this through than whether it was women, minorities white people, whatever they are. >> if charlie rangel thinks it is embarrassing you are really in trouble. as much as i kid about him i appreciate him holding the president to account on this let's be clear, he ran on this to a great extent. his presidency was to prevent an alleged all white-male cabinet which would not have been the case with romney but that was sort of implication. and getting all these folks names. i think there is some truth this is the club that he hangs around in and that is perhaps why you shouldn't have been hard on someone like romney for going out and requesting binders full of women. maybe he should send some over to the white house that might be helpful. go ahead. >> no, i thought that was cute. i thought that was very cute. from my perspective the big difference with romney was
he likes chuck hagel and he picked him. that may be vast oversimplification. margaret carlson made the same point. mary katherine, it would bother me more if i president hadn't done a thorough job thinking this through than whether it was women, minorities white people, whatever they are. >> if charlie rangel thinks it is embarrassing you are really in trouble. as much as i kid about him i appreciate him holding the president to account on this let's be clear, he ran on this to a great...
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. >> the white house is gearing up for a fight with republicans over chuck hagel, president obama's pick for secretary of defense. as well as the fight over that other thing, everything. >> "early start" continues right now. >>> inside the accused aurora shooter's alleged plot. the explosive trap police say he set as a diversion. >>> and too close for comfort. a great white shark seen lurking just off a florida beach. >>> and responding to the backlash. brent musburger's bosses apologizing for his on air comments about a football star's beauty queen girlfriend. good morning and welcome to early start. >> glad you're beauty queen gir. >> i'm john berman. >> i'm zoraida sambolin. we begin with the white house, and the national rifle observation. the nra confirming it will meet with vice president biden. but they don't sound ready to actively participate. putting out a statement that reads, "we are seconding a rep to hear what they have to say." that drew this response from the president's spokesman, jay carney. >> we look forward to hearing from a variety of organizations, and civic groups
. >> the white house is gearing up for a fight with republicans over chuck hagel, president obama's pick for secretary of defense. as well as the fight over that other thing, everything. >> "early start" continues right now. >>> inside the accused aurora shooter's alleged plot. the explosive trap police say he set as a diversion. >>> and too close for comfort. a great white shark seen lurking just off a florida beach. >>> and responding to the...
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then of course you have chuck hagel. there is controversy on both the left and the right, rather right and the left over that nomination. so this president, it seems like he's pushing the envelope with these nominees. and your producers also pointed out no women. >> been called the band of brothers, a couple of articles have described it that way. maria, what's your take? >> well, i'm not worried about the "controversial nature" of these appointees. i think they will get through. and the white house feels pretty confident that they will get through. but i absolutely agree that the next set of nominees and appointees need to look a lot more like this panel, randi. and -- and i am sure, i am actually sure that it will because clearly i don't know if it was just, you know, the timing of the rollout. let's remember that susan rice was considered for secretary of state. so i don't think we'd be having this conversation if she hadn't run into trouble. certainly, diversity has always been a priority for this president. and his
then of course you have chuck hagel. there is controversy on both the left and the right, rather right and the left over that nomination. so this president, it seems like he's pushing the envelope with these nominees. and your producers also pointed out no women. >> been called the band of brothers, a couple of articles have described it that way. maria, what's your take? >> well, i'm not worried about the "controversial nature" of these appointees. i think they will get...
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hagel opposed a nominee that was going to serve in the country of luxembourg as an ambassador, the size of a table, and he opposed him for being aggressively gay and had some tough anti-gay statements to make at the time. yes he apologized but apologized two weeks ago when his name was already being considered for secretary of defense, and yet it's okay to go after the pastor, but it's not okay to go after the nominee for secretary of defense, who is going to be making big and small decisions on a daily basis as we implement the complete repeal of don't ask, don't tell. that i think is inconsistent and verging on hypocriticahypocriti. >> just to be clear giglio pulled out on his own. president obama didn't change his mind and say get out. >> ana brings up a good point. we have to include people's evolving views on this. again i go back to what the reverend said 15 or 20 years ago, he has not disavowed. hagel has absolute disavowed what he said, and a lot of gay rights groups have taken him -- >> two weeks ago, maria, a very convenient evolution. >> that's fine. >> thank you both. thank
hagel opposed a nominee that was going to serve in the country of luxembourg as an ambassador, the size of a table, and he opposed him for being aggressively gay and had some tough anti-gay statements to make at the time. yes he apologized but apologized two weeks ago when his name was already being considered for secretary of defense, and yet it's okay to go after the pastor, but it's not okay to go after the nominee for secretary of defense, who is going to be making big and small decisions...
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and also, as you know, with president obama appointing or picking former senator chuck hagel to be his next secretary of the defense, it's widely speculated that a more aggressive drawdown is something that hagel may favor as well. but it's sort of unclear, wolf, what it means for the final number of u.s. troops that will remain in afghanistan. we know that white house officials are talking about somewhere between 0 and 9,000 troops but one of the things that was really interesting, listening to this press conference today. >> we didn't hear the presidents talk about there being no u.s. troops. in fact, the finding of common ground on immunity for u.s. troops and afghan soldiers and who will be in control of overseeing them seem to indicate that they have found some common ground on key sticking points and the take away there is likely there are going to be u.s. troops in afghanistan beyond 2014. >> the only thing they have to work out is how many. it looks like you're right. thanks very much, brianna, for that. >>> the date is now set for president obama's state of the union address.
and also, as you know, with president obama appointing or picking former senator chuck hagel to be his next secretary of the defense, it's widely speculated that a more aggressive drawdown is something that hagel may favor as well. but it's sort of unclear, wolf, what it means for the final number of u.s. troops that will remain in afghanistan. we know that white house officials are talking about somewhere between 0 and 9,000 troops but one of the things that was really interesting, listening...